"I don't think that you will be able to, lest the Overworld suffer for it." He responded, then he looked at John's defeated face and tried another tactic. "You need to consult the Fates. He might be able to tell you. I only know what he has told me, and what I have deduced." There was a chance that his brother might know more, but he didn't want to go to Zeus unless he absolutely had to. He would for John, but not unless they had exhausted all the other resources.

"Fates! To me!" He yelled upwards, towards the Overworld.